Dec 11, 2012 5:00pm PST
vansant, former fbi profiler to help us talk more about this. and clint, as we're learning about this, i know we talked when we were watching the breaking news details unfold out of aurora. this is hauntingly similar, to hear about somebody that may have been wearing camouflage. people are reporting may have been in body armor, walking into a crowded mall and starting to fire at random. >> i think that is part of the challenge with us, thomas, is that it's so similar. we know when you and i talked at that time too we had a similar weapon, an ar-15. at this time, the shooter had a 100-round magazine that jammed on him. there are early reports right now that an ar-15 with a full magazine, whether that means 10, 20 or if it's a banana clip 30 rounds, nonetheless was found laying in this mall. as you suggest, the individual is allegedly wearing camouflage clothing, body armor, and a mask described by some as a hockey mask, or something like in the movie "jason" that that individual would have been wearing at the time. we've also heard anywhere from 20 to 60 different rounds have been fired.
Dec 11, 2012 11:00pm PST
like alex gibney's great oscar-winning film "taxi to the dark side," you have a lot of fbi people, not cia, arguing that extreme interrogation doesn't work. that it makes people psychotic. that friendly interrogation, in fact, does a lot more to getting information. i don't think friendly interrogation, frankly, is quite as cinematic. >> did torture play an essential role in the hunt for bin laden? that's the question. dianne feinstein says unequivocally no. she spent three years looking at millions of pages of evidence. earlier she wrote, cia did not first learn about the existence of osama bin laden courier for detainees subjected to subjective interrogation techniques. instead, the cia learned of the existence of the courier, his true name and location, through means unrelated to the cia detention and interrogation program. that's after her statement, and one of the fbi interrogators who was successful in getting information from al qaeda detainees using noncoercive means has strongly criticized the cia's use of torture saying it didn't work. listen to what he says on "60 minut
Dec 7, 2012 2:00am PST
delivered that information to fbi agents posing as an undercover operation. >> that was wavy's andy fox reporting. >>> now, this morning's first look at your "dish of scrambled politics." comedian steve colbert of south carolina is ready to replace senator jim demint. oh, are you, now? his publicist in an e-mail saying "stephen is honored by the ground swell of support from the palmetto state and looks forward to governor haley's called." >>> some conservatives are having emotional debates over the fiscal cliff negotiations. the arguments for higher taxes for the wealthy are getting very tense. ann coulter even tried a reality check on sean hannity. >> are you saying, then, for pr purposes, that they should give in to obama on the tax rate? >> not exactly. well, yeah, i guess i am, but -- >> you're saying capitulate to obama, who -- we don't have a revenue problem, ann. >> we lost the election, sean. >>> meanwhile, the house of representatives passed legislation yesterday removing the word lunatic from all federal laws. it's the latest move by congress to remove language seen as demeani
Dec 12, 2012 2:00am PST
the entire story. >>> the fbi says it used facebook to help track down and bust a ring of international cyber criminals that infected 11 million computers, leading to $850 million in losses. >>> and speaking of facebook, the social network has landed in the top spot in an annual employees choice survey for the best place to work. workers praised facebook's fun culture and they also apparently give large responsibilities to folks relatively early in their careers. >>> well, just ahead, when it comes to christmas decorations, if you can't beat them, just give up. >>> plus, a custody battle brewing over this dapper little guy. we'll have details next. you're watching "first look" on msnbc. ♪ [ male announcer ] we began serving handcrafted coffees in seattle, and people seemed to like it. so we wondered -- where else could we take this? ♪ for over 40 years, we've brought our passion for fine coffee and espresso to people everywhere. but one place was impossible, until now. our lattes, espresso and brewed coffee, now in your home from a machine like no other. and now $50 off through january 1s
Dec 9, 2012 5:00am PST
is the fbi without warrants digging through e-mails. >> let me stop you there. there is a sense that if you were in a monogamous relationship and there's an understanding, it's a bad thing to do. >> it is a bad thing to do, but a common thing. if the fbi can kick in your front door if you do that, a lot of people should be nervous. 40% of women and 60% of men have cheated. we talk, monogamy, we are -- we do parabond. we are not sexually monogamous. we are monkeys in shoes. the pressures of monogamy over 30, 40, 50, 60 years, the life of a marriage is unsustainable. a lot of people are unsuccessful at that. we should have not like it's an okay, free to cheat, do whatever you want, you can violate somebody, we shouldn't get a get out after jail free card, but we should have a more subtle and fresh understanding that's hard to sustain over life. some things are more important than sex in a marriage. maybe sex happens once or twice outside of the marriage later in life or over its life. we should turn a blind eye to that. to honor the more important thing, the commitment of marriage. >> having
Dec 12, 2012 12:00am PST
is going to debunk that. and i know every expert i've talked to in the fbi, and in the cia, glenn carl for example told me none of this torture worked. none of this enhanced interrogation worked. it did not, as cheney has alleged, lead to the killing of bin laden. it was counterproductive. it was damaging to our reputation and he's still lying about it. >> we haven't heard the last of that, have we? >> no, we haven't. >> how aggressive do you think lawmakers ought to be with that report? >> i think it ought to be at least portions of it, just like i thought the 9/11 commission portions of it should be made public. if we're not going to hold people accountable, we should at least let the american people know what was done in their name that basically constituted war crimes. >> getting back to cheney for a moment, his vision of international intervention, do you think that that really illustrates where the republican party is? >> i think the republican party is lost right now. wandering in the desert, as it were.
Dec 11, 2012 6:00pm PST
for information, and they need it from someone on the phone to help them. >> clint van zandt, former fbi profiler. thank you for joining me. we've been covering the breaking news that shots were fired at the clackamas town center mall near portland, oregon, earlier today. roughly about 3:30 in the afternoon pacific time. at this time we have confirmation that three people are dead, including the gunman. one person is wounded. witnesses say the gunman worked with a semiautomatic rifle. the rachel maddow show picks up after this. >>> good evening. i'm ezra klein. rachel maddow has the night off. we begin tonight with an update on the breaking news in the pacific northwest, the terrifying scene that unfolded earlier tonight at a shopping mall in portland, oregon. a gunman with what witnesses describe as a rifle opening fire on holiday shoppers. two people were killed. the shooter also killed, and one person has been seriously injured according to the sheriff's department. an eyewitness who had been browsing the watch counter inside macy's described the scene to our portland, oregon affiliate kgw tv.
Dec 12, 2012 10:00am PST
a former fbi agent. thanks for being with us. what is the significance and what do we know about the success of this, because there had been prior attempts, all failures, but this one seems to have worked. >> it seems to have worked according to plan and maybe worked beyond what we expected and maybe even what the north koreans expected. this puts them clearly on a path, you know, there's that three-legged stool of trying to get a nuclear weapon you can deliver some place and detonate. the mission portion of that is a very important portion of that, so this is a very serious, very provocative steps, certainly in violation of u.n. resolutions, and this is a big moment for the international community. and i would specify china about their ability to step up and engage and change the mind of north korea on its pursuit of a nuclear weapon program that can weaponize it, put it on the top of a missile, and fire it some place. >> how concerned are we right now about a nuclear test, another nuclear test, by the north koreans? >> they have earlier said they would do this, and we thought m
Dec 9, 2012 12:00pm PST
. >>> and the fbi's headquarters may be moving. not soon, though, but perhaps eventually. the building sits right between the white house and the capitol. it's prime d.c. real estate so the agency that oversees the federal buildings is calling on ideas about where else it could house the gumshoe headquarters. in exchange they'll consider throwing in the j. edgar hoover building and the land it stands on. >>> turning to weed now, marijuana reform backers got a huge boost in november when voters in colorado and washington state legalized recreational pot. recent polls have found the nation just about split on whether or not to legalize. but businessmen are looking forward to relaxed laws on marijuana. i want to bring in tony decouple from the daily beast. he wrote a fascinating story, called the new pot barons, businessmen banking on marijuana. he's got a book coming out as well in about 18 months. we'll talk about it in a second. first of all, let's talk about the business aspect of this. this is not something that always gets a great deal of attention. but using colorado as a model. how big of a